Comments on: Obama and evangelicals: Summer of love

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:24:53 +0000

Adam: Okay, okay. I see. I wonder what it will look like “on the ground” when you move out West. Should be interesting to have experienced both places during the election year.

By: adam mclane

adam mclane — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:20:19 +0000

“For me” was my recognition that this is an opinion of something I’m seeing much larger. I’m seeing a major shift/swing of young evangelical voters on those two issues. This is based on both blog land and here on the ground in Michigan. The republicans seem to have lost the interest of young evangelical voters.

As for my own vote. If GW Bush was on the ballot I’d vote for him again. He’s bought my vote fair n square.

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:58:38 +0000

Adam: Can you explain what you mean? When you say “For me” do you mean “For a former Bush-supporting evangelical who now leans towards Obama” or something else (I don’t want to put words in your mouth…

By: adam mclane

adam mclane — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:29:03 +0000

For me, the shift has resulted in two primary things…

1. Conservative republicans failed to deliver any movement on their #1 issue, abortion. They had 8 years of Bush who is very evangelical friendly, got 2 supreme court justices out of it, and no real change.

2. Republicans missed the boat on younger evangelicals shift towards social issues and the environment.

By: Jake

Jake — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:55:48 +0000

Skip: I agree that they're not news, I think I would actually use the phrase "pop news" though. It's news that's easy to digest; you don't have to use your head (unfortunately) to understand polling numbers or which demographic is currently supporting/denouncing whom. The news about the topics you mentioned is tough to find, especially on front pages, because (1) it's not "breaking" news, and (2) it's not pop news. Thomas Friedman had an article a while back called Obama and the Jews, but it was actually about Bush and the Jews, despite what the title suggests. See you soon. Ryan: Good questions, bro.

By: Ryan Gibbs

Ryan Gibbs — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:19:29 +0000

This is such an interesting issue to me. I think it is great that some Christians around this nation have started to care important issues like healthcare and ending a horrible war and have enough integrity as a nation to say no to torture, but I am also shocked at how (dumb, brainwashed, I don’t even know how to say this nicely) some are. How in 2008 can Christians still support a party that has totally ignored the needs of the American people? How can Christians support a party that has acted so Un-Christian in our countries international affairs? While every party and every candidate has their faults, how can any American Christian continue to support the policies of the last 8 years?

By: Skip Bouma

Skip Bouma — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 05:16:43 +0000

I always enjoy your posts and I hope I don’t come off as a douche bag like Pockets. Your post highlights one of the reasons America is in such a torrid state. These stories are not news, which you alluded to at the end of your post. Whether or not Obama polls well with the born-agains, jews, atheists, hindus, or rastafarians is moot. Where are the stories on his support of FISA? His support of Isreal at the expense of the Palestines? His Chicago school economic advisors? “A change we can believe in” is all well and good, but what about “a change we can count on?” Any hoots, enough ranting.

By: Jake

Jake — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:06:18 +0000

Now, now, Pockets. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.

By: Pockets

Pockets — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:55:47 +0000

Another group of nut-cases who believe in an invisible diety in the sky.